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by kmorin
Sun May 06, 2012 2:49 pm
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build: reference notes

AAB.com, I've received a few emails regarding this build so this post just makes some notes for those reading. First this is a one off boat, I'm not building fulltime and don't have a crew of builders, and the work shown is being done in various rented shops, with a couple of welding power supplies ...
by kmorin
Fri May 04, 2012 8:45 pm
Forum: Alloy Shop Talk
Topic: Cabin Build
Replies: 68
Views: 33699

Cabin Build- Scope?

FinishedBusiness I'm just asking questions. The reason is for you to ask yourself if you're thinking of the entire project in scale and scope? Does the original dash or instruments and helm have to set the cabin projects' basis? Does the original lower cabin and dash/helm and cabin represent somethi...
by kmorin
Tue May 01, 2012 11:02 pm
Forum: Aluminum Boats For Sale
Topic: 32' Edwing cat for sale
Replies: 17
Views: 8907

Re: 32' Edwing cat for sale

jettywolf are you inviting guys for fishing or just to see you in the bikini and flip flops? That does sound 'interesting' for 450 a day though, don't get me wrong. :rotfl:

Cheers,
Kevin Morin
by kmorin
Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:09 pm
Forum: Alloy Shop Talk
Topic: Cabin Build
Replies: 68
Views: 33699

Tanks and Bilge

finished business, the bilge the general area below the waterline INSIDE the hull so lets say from chine to chine inside? I'm glad you found the tanks were not pitted and the oil/goop was not corrosion! That is good news. I'd take a minute to check the foamed areas to make sure you don't have contac...
by kmorin
Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:09 pm
Forum: Alloy Boat Forum
Topic: acid washing your Alloy...
Replies: 29
Views: 34597

Re: acid washing your Alloy...

Jettywolf, here are some photos to try to help explain more about mill scale. A note about aluminum photos though- its all some shade of gray or silver and its kind of hard to get fine detail unless you're a good photographer and obviously I'm not. Generally if there is a 'chrome-like' shine there's...
by kmorin
Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:11 am
Forum: Alloy Boat Forum
Topic: acid washing your Alloy...
Replies: 29
Views: 34597

Re: acid washing your Alloy...

To further our discussion about "doing it", or actually etching a boat with acid compounds- I'd like to mention some things that could be of interest and a note of caution as well. First you don't have to etch all at once that is you can clean small areas over time the effect is cumulative...
by kmorin
Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:50 pm
Forum: Alloy Boat Forum
Topic: acid washing your Alloy...
Replies: 29
Views: 34597

Re: acid washing your Alloy...

beachdweller, If they paint you may question if they use a self etching primer? (1) or if they use the older and more cumbersome acid etch/rinse/allodyne method before the primer?(2) Also will the entire bilge be painted,(3) that is will the hull be painted (and therefore prepped) inside and out or ...
by kmorin
Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:54 pm
Forum: Alloy Boat Forum
Topic: acid washing your Alloy...
Replies: 29
Views: 34597

Re: acid washing your Alloy...

sculpin, I don't have any contact with the name shops, as I'm not in their class just a skiff builder, but I do know the results I've seen in the last four decades working on alloy boats. I have seen several skiffs from different Puget Sound builders, I think one was Workboats Northwest? and it was ...
by kmorin
Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:07 pm
Forum: Alloy Shop Talk
Topic: Cabin Build
Replies: 68
Views: 33699

Cabin Build: Oil Spills a Blessing!

Finished Business, if you have an oil spill its a total blessing, the oil will create a oxygen rich paste on the surface of aluminum and preserve it! In the late 50's and early 60's along the PNW coast three builders were contracted to build a series of 32' welded aluminum gill net boats for a salmo...
by kmorin
Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:49 pm
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build: Decking Installed

with the bottom framing and welding largely done, where the welding was stretched over several different framing steps to fill in the work flow and move the heat of contraction around the boat slowly; its time to put on the deck. You may recall that I didn't want to kneel down on the deck beams and ...
by kmorin
Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:56 pm
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build: deck and bottom framing

Just above the images show the longs on the bottom, the deck framing beginning and some unaccounted pipes and conduits under the deck framing. http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo273/kevinmorin_photo/24%20Open/controlsconduit_2a.jpg to allow the shift throttle cables to run from the helm under the ...
by kmorin
Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:17 pm
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build: bottom longs

Because the bottom is not framed transversely and is 1/4" there were two places where the shape was distorted so the layout for the precut longs was not used, instead some temporary transverse shapes were tacked under the hull to hold the shape and the longs were scribed to fit. This was added ...
by kmorin
Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:40 pm
Forum: Alloy Shop Talk
Topic: Cabin Build
Replies: 68
Views: 33699

Re: Cabin Build

Finished biz, I'm not sure of the following, its just my speculation based on the image files you've posted above. It looks like the fuel hoses are steel crimp onto brass end fittings? Perhaps that is wrong- but the mess on top of the tanks appears to indicate there has been a pool of water containi...
by kmorin
Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:26 pm
Forum: Alloy Boat Forum
Topic: acid washing your Alloy...
Replies: 29
Views: 34597

Re: acid washing your Alloy...

johncar, sorry to have missed this post, I don't know if your boat needs to be etched based on your comparison of the exiting corrosion. I use the "rule of thumb" that all mill scale should be removed, and I either do it myself or leave it to the owner, if they prefer to leave it on.... ? ...
by kmorin
Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:01 pm
Forum: Alloy Shop Talk
Topic: Displacement Hull Alloy
Replies: 4
Views: 5293

Displacement Hull Alloy: Of course!

Kelper, of course there are quite a few hulls that would work fine, Rosema http://www.rozemaboatworks.com/ comes to mind, Kvichak (quee-jack) may still offer commercial fishing welded aluminum hulls? http://www.kvichak.com/ ; Leeshore http://www.leeshoreboats.com/ would probably offer a custom build...
by kmorin
Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:09 pm
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build: two topsides, lower and upper

EDD, yes the two topsides plates, one a strip about 25' long the other the full 'sides' of the boat were both shaped by the output of the D'shipPro application to create the developed surfaces. When the lower topsides strip was tacked edge to edge to the outer edge of the chine flat the two shapes f...
by kmorin
Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:56 am
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build: pulling in the bottom

Chaps, you're right, it was a bear and the rest has been pretty simple ; by comparison. The topsides panel cuts were quite full in the forward five feet and since I don't/didn't use frames they went on without the full amount of final cone. Therefore putting the guard deck on was pretty Olympic too....
by kmorin
Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:32 am
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build; bottom framing

John, EDD, we'll need some framing to keep the shape but the lower topsides and chine flats to create some shape rigidity that allows the interior framing something to weld too. http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo273/kevinmorin_photo/24%20Open/LowerTopsides_9a-1.jpg first some prelimiary beads alo...
by kmorin
Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:53 am
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build: tools and methods

John, I use the 1.90$ (US)/can generic food spray from the local pallet stacked warehouse food supply, and it works good because it will keep the build up off the saw blade which is where I spray it. Then, if the acetone misses some when you clean up, it vaporizes at a lower temperature than any pet...
by kmorin
Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:26 am
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build; bottom tack up and framing

EDD, I discussed above the idea that the boat would not have full ht sides. I've crawled over more than my share of skiffs and after climbing in, then I've knelt down to work either at or below my knees and I have also confessed that those days are gone- passed tense- ain't happen' now. So the boat ...
by kmorin
Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:09 am
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build; bottom tack up and framing

EDD, that d*mned 1/4" bottom was a bear to pull in, as anyone who's done this could have predicted and I should have too! But the Skipper is always right (sort of corollary of the "Customer is Always Right" for boat builders) so 1/4" it is. I will point out that those with a fine...
by kmorin
Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:51 pm
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build; bottom tack up and framing

EDD, http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo273/kevinmorin_photo/24%20Open/bottomTackUP_15.jpg the keel is going to be flexible in this design, for a while. So we have a set of temporary flat bars on one side to keep it fair until we get to the stage where we can add the permanent stiffener to hold th...
by kmorin
Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:30 pm
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build; bottom tack up and framing

EDD, I was going to explain why the bottom is shaped like it is, but that can wait, I'll post a few more shots of the build and get to the shape ideas as we go along. I want to make a note about the keel seam, for those who are considering becoming aluminum boat builders, because this joint is criti...
by kmorin
Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:17 pm
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

25' Alloy Build; bottom- layout and cutting

EDD, I used Defltship Pro to create the model and do the developed plate shapes, but I used to do these takeoff from plate models that Randy/netman will be doing on the adjacent thread where he's getting ready to build a net skiff. The outlines of the panel shapes, keel and various other hull shapes...
by kmorin
Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:52 pm
Forum: Custom Skiff Build
Topic: 25' Alloy Build
Replies: 46
Views: 51162

ARGHHHH!!!! I missed a TIG Gun!!!

EDD, I have been looking for another TIG gun for months and haven't found (another) one!!!! :banghead: Please write with any questions and I will try to create an explanation for every single detail of the gun; if you did find one (?) and please see if they have another one? I will continue with the...