BOE Purchase

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BOE Purchase

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Post by goatram » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:53 pm

Ordered up the New HDS 10 Gen 2 Fishfinder/chartplotter with the insight maps along with a new 50/200 transponder, A Structure Scan Sounder and a LGC 4000 GPS Antenna. Tomorrow BOE starts a sale 5% off. They did not have the HDS LSS-1 Bundle available yet for shipment It so i preordered it separately and it will be shipped tomorrow. Lowrance has a Boat show special of a $300 rebate when you by the sounder separately. The bundle was listed at $2,512. Cost with the sale price separately is $2580.61 - the $300 = $2280. I need to replace the the GPS puck that comes internally with the HDS cause of the Aluminum Roof.

My old LCX 113C HD unit with the new Transducer, LGC 3000 Antenna, Rim 300 cable for Radar power and a Fishing Chip I think I sold for $1000. Will find out later tonight.

I Test Drove the HDS Unit at the Puyallup Sportsman Show and at the Seattle Boat Show. The Zoom in and Out is Wickedly fast. Instant pictures pop up. The track back is cool, The ability to overlay the Structure Sound to your maps might be cool but it might clutter up the screen with too much info.

I am going to keep the LRA 1800 HD Radar and not upgrade to the 3G Broadband Radar.

Question that arose was Which fuel flow do I use? I currently have the EP-60R fuel flow sensor and I also have the Lowrance Engine Monitoring Cable. Does the Monitoring Cable produce the Gallons Used per trip like the EP-60R?
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132-06 -
Lowrance LSS-1 StructureScan Sounder - Includes Transducer
$494.08

1
125-28 -
Lowrance LGC 4000 GPS Receiver Antenna
$183.79

1
000-10541-001 -
Lowrance HDS-10 Gen2 Insight USA 50/200 kHz T/M Transducer
$2,086.53

Sub-Total:
$2,764.40

Tax:
$0.00

Shipping & Handling:
$0.00

TOTAL:
$2,764.40
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Re: BOE Purchase

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Post by Chaps » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:36 pm

No, I don't know. In fact I need some help getting my engine and fuel stuff displayed properly. I'm so dense when it comes to networked boat electronics . . . my idea of a technical breakthrough was loranC, never quite figured that out either. OK, I'm overstating my ignorance a bit but not by much . . .
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Re: BOE Purchase

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Post by Fisherman » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:21 pm

Did you get the OEM transducer or did you upgrade?

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Post by goatram » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:59 pm

I upgraded to a P66 improved version. I bought it from Simperfifishing on the Hull Truth. Currently the LCX I have now does not read the Water Temp. I will report back to you Bob cause I am headed back down to the Boat Show Friday. Nice day Forecasted
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Re: BOE Purchase

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Post by goatram » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:08 am

update it looks like I can get the info to update fuel used from the engine with out the EP-60R
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Post by Fisherman » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:10 am

goatram wrote:I upgraded to a P66 improved version. I bought it from Simperfifishing on the Hull Truth. Currently the LCX I have now does not read the Water Temp. I will report back to you Bob cause I am headed back down to the Boat Show Friday. Nice day Forecasted
Good. That is a good transducer. I had one with my Lowrance (big improvement over the OEM) and I now have one with my Furuno. Semperfifishing is a neighbor of mine...just a few miles down the road.

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Re: BOE Purchase

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Post by goatram » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:39 am

Well I received the HDS and Sounder plus the LGC 4000 antenna Thursday, Radar came in Friday. Spent the Evening looking at and stroking my new toys as well as registering it with Lowrance's website. Stoked for the morning and installing the system. :mrgreen:

Looks like my radar Mount will be Too Small for the new 3G radome. Might have to make a wider base plate or a new one. That will suck and slow down the process. Neat thing is the Radar has no Black box to mount the sounder can take its spot if the wires will stretch.

Now to decide where to mount the Structure Scan Sonar as well on the Transom like the sounder were it is always in the water even at speed and on plane or Higher up to protect it. so it only is in contact when trolling.
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Post by Sculpin » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:31 pm

goatram wrote:Well I received the HDS and Sounder plus the LGC 4000 antenna Thursday, Radar came in Friday. Spent the Evening looking at and stroking my new toys as well as registering it with Lowrance's website. Stoked for the morning and installing the system. :mrgreen:

Looks like my radar Mount will be Too Small for the new 3G radome. Might have to make a wider base plate or a new one. That will suck and slow down the process. Neat thing is the Radar has no Black box to mount the sounder can take its spot if the wires will stretch.

Now to decide where to mount the Structure Scan Sonar as well on the Transom like the sounder were it is always in the water even at speed and on plane or Higher up to protect it. so it only is in contact when trolling.

Ah yes the looking and stroking ha ha. It is a good feeling isn't it. Congrats on the goodies goatram. Post up some pic's of the cool stuff dude. You are going to love them :popcorn: .
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Post by goatram » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:13 pm

I got side tracked by Vance aka Dagonballs. I found out he had Tower Todd and Marlin Mike over and I got side tracked. It was cold, wet and windy today so I spent the afternoon over there rather than on my carport. :rotfl:
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Post by plumbwolf » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:46 am

John
I am in the process of hooking up my Yamaha's to my Garmin had some wrong info from the Garmin reps at the boat show they said I needed fuel flow meters on both motors. :hammer: I talked with Todd with Portland electronics at the sportsman show and the 2006 and newer yamaha's have the nmea 2000 output and will send all the info to your unit here is the link


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Post by JETTYWOLF » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:18 pm

goatram wrote:It was cold, wet and windy today so....

WHAT WAS IT AGAIN?????
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Post by goatram » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:46 pm

plumbwolf wrote:John
I am in the process of hooking up my Yamaha's to my Garmin had some wrong info from the Garmin reps at the boat show they said I needed fuel flow meters on both motors. :hammer: I talked with Todd with Portland electronics at the sportsman show and the 2006 and newer yamaha's have the nmea 2000 output and will send all the info to your unit here is the link


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Jay I have the Lowrance cable already hooked to my Network. I will be disconnecting the EP 60 Fuel Flow meter shortly. I now have my Shop back so tomorrow I get to place my boat back in it and finish my install. Friday I got the Sonar 10' Extension cable that I ordered from BOE. Great Service I shall Say on their behalf.

"It was cold, wet and windy today so" Today it was more of the same. So I spent the afternoon again over at Vance's house Watching work performed.
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Post by goatram » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:46 pm

plumbwolf wrote:John
I am in the process of hooking up my Yamaha's to my Garmin had some wrong info from the Garmin reps at the boat show they said I needed fuel flow meters on both motors. :hammer: I talked with Todd with Portland electronics at the sportsman show and the 2006 and newer yamaha's have the nmea 2000 output and will send all the info to your unit here is the link


http://webpages.charter.net/akelliott/C ... etwork.pdf
Jay I have the Lowrance cable already hooked to my Network. I will be disconnecting the EP 60 Fuel Flow meter shortly. I now have my Shop back so tomorrow I get to place my boat back in it and finish my install. Friday I got the Sonar 10' Extension cable that I ordered from BOE. Great Service I shall Say on their behalf.

"It was cold, wet and windy today so" Today it was more of the same. So I spent the afternoon again over at Vance's house Watching work performed.
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Post by plumbwolf » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:14 pm

John
Coment was do you have your Yamaha' s hooked to the network ?

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Post by goatram » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:53 pm

Yes I do! to answer your question.

I am still playing with the boat Now it is back in the shop. Just got back running errands. Yesterday hooked up the Sonar Transducer to the transom, The Washdown Pump is in and wired, figured out the location for the SSS Black Box. Need to cut and install the SS BB on a piece of Aluminum and then mount it in the Fwd Compartment's Ceiling. New Radar is on but looks strange due to the white and gray contrasting colors. Looks tilled way down fwd.
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Post by goatram » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:59 pm

Power is on and it is 9:58 pm Will do the intial set up and post pictures tomorrow night.

You heard that before from me I'll Bet :mrgreen: :popcorn: :gunner2: :rotfl:
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Post by Sculpin » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:45 pm

We are all waiting patiently goatram...................... :popcorn:
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Post by goatram » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:06 am

its late and I and Ken are going out around noon to sea trail both boats. Been tighten all of the little things up. So one more day will get you more pictures.
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Post by Sculpin » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:45 am

goatram wrote:its late and I and Ken are going out around noon to sea trail both boats. Been tighten all of the little things up. So one more day will get you more pictures.
Cool stuff. Hope you guy's have fun out there. Hope everything works. I take it you got Ken's boat all back together?
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Post by goatram » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:58 am

Yup!

Vance did his wiring this past weekend. Got rid of all of the unsealed Butt Connectors and also added a ACR and new Battery Switches.
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Post by Sculpin » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:24 pm

Did you guys make it out for sea trials? How did it go? It would be cool to see how you like the new stuff :popcorn:
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Post by goatram » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:05 am

We did.
Ken's boat picked up a knot in speed and ran well. His thru hull for his bait tank worked well and continued to pump at max speed. He was quite happy with it. The deck drained well so it was a winner all around.

Mine; I changed the prop and that lost 2 MPH (I use MPH I was never a Navy Boy) So that prop is coming off. Now I am in search of a 15 1/4 X 19 SWS II Prop. RPM with the SWS II 15 X 21 was 5400. Deck Drained well. I did have issues with my Electronics. The HDS does not power the NMEA 2000 Backbone. Had to hook up a Power chord to a T. Also the Autopilot was not getting Nav Data. Found a plug on the Simnet not fully seated it works fine now on the trailer. I need to Splash it one more time to finish my ops checks.

The Radar is Awesome, Spot on right out of the box! The HDS 10 Gen 2 fast zooming in and out. Amount of detail in the maps is great. Need a lot more time getting use to all of the features that it gives me. The P66 transducer now reads the correct water temp and marks the bottom and fish with better results than the Lowrance Ducer did that I remember. I cross checked the Ducer with the Sonar. The Structure Scan Sonar is neat as well. Again I need to spend seat time getting used to it so I can Interpret it faster.
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Post by Sculpin » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:45 pm

Thanks for the report goatram. Glad everything worked out on Ken's boat. You are a braver man than I for installing electronics (I'm horrible at electrical). Glad to here you like the radar and HDS 10 Gen2. Play around with them some more. I'm thinking a need quite a few more trips before I get the full understanding and potential of the structure scan.

What's the unit on the far right of the picture? a temp sensor?

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Post by goatram » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:22 pm

Lights. Live Well ones. They work and are like $10 apiece
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Post by pjay9 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:56 pm

goatram wrote:Lights. Live Well ones. They work and are like $10 apiece
I thought they were 'BACKUP' sensors that you ripped off the Ford bumper!!! :rotfl:

Looks like you installed 90* lip on the inboard side of your trim tab...what does that do?

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