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Marine Glass????

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Post by Sabs28 » Sun May 18, 2014 2:51 pm

Can "Lexan" be used for boat windows or do I need "Marine Glass"???? :popcorn:
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Post by Chaps » Sun May 18, 2014 10:10 pm

If'n you want to be cool like the cool guys you must use marine glass (whatever that is) :roflmao:
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Post by Gypseas » Sun May 18, 2014 10:21 pm

Thought "lexan" scratches and will look faded in short order

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Post by welderbob » Mon May 19, 2014 8:30 am

lexan is fine for side windows, but don't try and run a windshield wiper on it. It will last long that you think.
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Post by Sabs28 » Thu May 22, 2014 9:27 am

So where would I find "Marine Grade Glass"?????
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Post by skypoke » Fri May 23, 2014 9:05 am

I chose to use tempered glass for pilothouse. I made patterns in masonite of the glass, went to local glass company and they had the glass cut and tempered. It was surprisingly inexpensive. Your glass supplier has access for rubber extrusions in every imaginable configuration for installation. These can be quite pricey.
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Post by 3f8 » Fri May 23, 2014 12:17 pm

Friends don't let friends use plastic. Go Glass! Plastic is just too soft to yield a good long term outcome.
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Post by ARMOR » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:23 pm

Maybe consider Makrolon AR2 by Sheffield Plastics, it is really tough stuff you'll see on tractor cabs and commercial boats. After getting my last quote back for windows and doors I am seriously considering using this stuff on my build....

Speaking of which, anyone ever built their own slider windows? I'd like to keep radius corners and I quite haven't figured out how to do it.

I also would be very interested in seeing a couple door designs if anyone's built their own.

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Post by goatram » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:33 pm

The Tempered Glass and Rubber Extrusion is the Better Choice. On my previous build on my Northriver I made my own slider that always Stuck so I converted it to a hinge door.

on the new Boat I used Diamond Seaglaze for both the windows and the slider door. The Work Boat show is coming up in NOV in Seattle. Free and there will be some of the Window Supply Companies there 19 - 21 Marine Expo. A fun Day goofing off for me.
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Post by ARMOR » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:37 pm

DSG has some nice stuff and is pretty much the benchmark. However, they are definitely a premium price as well, especially for the doors. Hence thinking of getting a little creative. Rubber gasket windows are ok until you end up with a window in your lap. The Makrolon is what you'll see on many of the newer commercial fishing boats in AK as a windshield. AR stands for abrasion resistant; the 2 is for two sides. If it is good enough for them it will probably work for me.

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Post by skypoke » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:32 pm

That Makralon sounds good. I have thought about those tempered glass windows in rubber gaskets, having one pop out would be not good at all. If I stay with them I'm going to come up with some sort of clamping arrangement on the inside.

So, is this abrasion resistant plastic tough enough to withstand windshield wipers?
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Post by ARMOR » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:21 pm

A couple links for references:

http://www.acplasticsinc.com/techsheets ... lon_AR.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idJGrLcaDlQ

http://articles.sae.org/6797/

The stuff seems pretty tough; just need to make sure to get AR2 (abrasion resistant both sides)

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Post by markh2000 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:51 am

The Makralon SR or Lexan scratch resistant material will work fine for your windows. Use 1/4" thick or more, have the window cut 1" wider than your opening all the way around, silicone seal them to your frame, and bolt the Lexan to your frame, 4 to 5" O.C. drill the holes for the bolts a little oversize, as the Lexan materials will expand and contract a little with temperature change.
All aluminum jet boat operators running the big white water here in the Northwest install scratch resistant Lexan in their front windows. Tempered glass will break or blow out. Not a good experience. I have attached some pictures of my boat with Lexan front windows and Lexan top windows. Trust me, these windows have been well tested. You would have a hard time knocking them out with a sledgehammer!
Buy the Pacific Powertrain wiper system or at least the frameless wiper blades, and you will not scratch your windows.
http://pacificpowertraininc.com/product ... ld-wipers/

Over time the Lexan can slightly cloud if left outside in the sun. Window covers while parked outside can prevent this.

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Post by MacCTD » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:24 am

Wow, those are some good action shots, what happens if you lose power in the river?
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Post by markh2000 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:58 am

An engine failure is not very common with our new modern marine engines. Not much more common than your car quitting you out on the freeway...but, they are boats, so,,,**** happens!
For running big whitewater most prefer the redundancy and safety of having two engines(my boat has twin supercharged 6 liter Marine Power engines) in the event of total engine failure, you try to get the boat to shore and tie up to work on it, this is when your glad you have a trolling motor or at least a paddle on board!
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Re: Marine Glass????

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Post by Sabs28 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:49 am

MacCTD wrote: what happens if you lose power in the river?
HOLD ON TIGHT. :rotfl:
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