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Great job! I love the boat.

I second Fraser Bronze (great, great people who've been casting for 50+ years) - they pour the cleats for Pacific and many other PacNW builders - get the 10" cleats if possible. The hole in the center is big enough to get a good sized loop through.

Paint? You're gonna hide all of that beautiful metal? Just my 2 cents but have you considered blasting the boat instead. We've done a number of blast finishes (combination of glass beads and walnut shells) followed by a light acid wash and complete (seriously complete) rinse. Many people think that it is a metal paint. No bubbling, no blisters and can be redone again and again. We also used the 3M non-skid tape (with edge sealer) - again a great product.

Lastly - what are you using fro seats? Shock mitigating?

I just got back from the International WorkBoat Show in New Orleans and was on a seat mission.

Found these:

http://www.downloads.pilotchairs.com/

Specifically the "Operator IMO" chair under the "Naval" section.

High-end shock mitigating seats are an incredible thing to have on any boat but they are very pricey (think $8000-$17,000). These chairs are German engineered but yet were about $2000/per (I know how silly it seems to be discussing inexpensive chairs at $2000...).

Congrats on the build - that's a lot of hours!
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Post a pic or two of a blast finished boat, got my interest
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ReelSong wrote:Post a pic or two of a blast finished boat, got my interest
Chaps is your man to Blast it!
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goatram wrote:
ReelSong wrote:Post a pic or two of a blast finished boat, got my interest
Chaps is your man to Blast it!
Thanks John

I agree with Jay that a fine blast with the right media looks pretty good. The oxidation that you normally see on mill finish plate doesn't seem to develop in the same way on a blasted finish, not sure why. It has to be subtle, though. A coarse, sand blast type finish is rough and gets dirty really fast so you don't want that. I could blast a piece of plate and send it down. I have a Farrow machine that is otherwise known as a slurry blaster. The media comes out of the nozzle at a relatively low pressure (but high air volume) and a small amount of water is in the mix.

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Chaps, why is that blast machine NOT in you sig line ????

Put it in there so we know what you can do .....If ya want. :thumbsup:

I would go with the , Chaps blast finish and Shark Hide sealer if she was mine but that's just me. :skipper:
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welder wrote:Chaps, why is that blast machine NOT in you sig line ????
Thanks Les, I'll work something up
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Welcome to the site. :highfive:

Very nice work indeed. :thumbsup:

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Here's a couple of shots of a blasted boat. It's not pretty like a paint job but it does have a great no-nonsense/military feel to it.

As I'm sure you know aluminum is a very, very reactive metal and it oxidizes. The oxide layer that forms protects the metal from further corrosion in what's called "passivation" (same as Stainless Steel).

Anyhow - when you paint a boat you have applied the paint to a (hopefully) bright, un-oxidized, primed metal surface for good adhesion. The problem comes when you break that paint/primer/metal seal - be it a chip, screw hole, scrape, etc. Then the surface starts to oxidize and work its way under the paint and you get those familiar "bubbles" and "blisters".

Many people see these near SS screw holes and think that it is the dissimilar metals (galvanic corrosion) when its actually just the broken paint/metal seal and natural oxidation.

The pictured boat wasn't sealed after being blasted and acid washed but if you'd like to get a cleaner feel and no oxide residue I'd suggest Nyalic (http://www.nyalic.com) as a sealer. Pacific boats and I have used this stuff for years with great success. Easy to apply and easy to re-apply.

Good luck!
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Thanks for the pics, thats kinda a cool look. probably making a mistake put order'd paint primer and zolotone already and will paint within a week or two.
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Well as you can see I decided to paint over the holidays, I got the sides and visor done with Black Pearl Slate imron, a ford color, in a four stage process of metal loc, primer sealer, base coat clear coat, I'll zolotonr the sides and top decks with a white marble zolotone after my cleats and deck hatches show up.
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She is getting better looking by the day .

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Damn Terry! You amaze more and more with each picture! Beautiful color!

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Looks good.

Now the hard part comes the attention to detail and rigging. :smitty:
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Sunlight photo so you can see the color
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Nice job Terry and welcome to AAB.

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Hey, thanks Mike, I'm going to need another door, I'll let you know what size as soon as I cut it.
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Any suggestions on where to find the best deal on a pair of 250Hp twins either Yamaha's or possibly Suzuki's? I may possibly buy waynes used 06 250's but would really like to have new motors for the new boat if I can swing it
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I got a great deal on my big Zuke from Sportcraft Marina in Oregon City near Portland (5 years ago)
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ReelSong wrote:Any suggestions on where to find the best deal on a pair of 250Hp twins either Yamaha's or possibly Suzuki's? I may possibly buy waynes used 06 250's but would really like to have new motors for the new boat if I can swing it
You might give these guys a try: http://www.twimarine.com/ 949-335-8909

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Another supply question, I just got a quote for the windows for my boat and it seems high? $4200.00 Is Diamond seaglaze the go to window place or am I missing something? I'm not cheap but just want to know is this where all the manufactures outwest go for windows? and does that seem bout right? Oh yeah that dosnt include any door
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Thanks, I'll send my info out for a couple of quotes. Just use to always hearing Diamond Seaglaze. I understand that I'm not a regular and might do better ordering through CWB or something. I'll see what happens Monday. Thanks again
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Had to let mine sit for awhile, I had to fix my friends flat bottom which required a new bottom. Hopefully back to work on mine soon.
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Chaps, thankyou for the info on windows.
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