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Big sucker

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:11 pm
by peterbo3

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:38 pm
by Chaps
Pete, can't access the pics without joining the site and all that kind of BS. How about pasting them here in your post?

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:11 pm
by welder
Here are a couple of them ...

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:52 pm
by goatram
Another boat with nice lines and a figure to boat with. Those Cockpit lines and windows are sweet. The bow should keep the windows clean. Once painted it will be hard to tell from a plastic boat at a distance.

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:59 pm
by JETTYWOLF
That boat could roll down the road on a giant flatbed half finished and it would still have that "down yonder" kinda look.








YET LARGER than most.





C'C'mon :joecool:

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:54 pm
by Challenge
More Pics please!!!! :thumbsup:

I tried the link but I need to sign up...

Is it a walkaround cabin?

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:26 pm
by JETTYWOLF
Hell, having a "walk-around" is the least of that boat's problems.

Where's the ""triple"" 10HP bow thrusters :?: :?:

C'C'mon... :joecool:

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:08 pm
by peterbo3
OK, boat is full cab as it is designed to sleep four in comfort & has a shower/head. Power will be two 300 or 350 Zukes. Designed for very fast runs to isolated areas for 3-4 days & get back in nearly any weather.

It will NOT be hanging around jetties. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


BTW Dave, do ya have some ideas to improve the look of this "type" boat? I can pass em on to the designer........... :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:56 pm
by akcat
Nice looking boat peterbo3!! I wouldn't change any of those lines on her. What are the dimensions of her? Dave seems to have an opinion on just about everything on this forum, but I wonder how much experience he has in offshore boats or any boat beside his own. He doesn't like "forts", doesn't like cats, and doesn't "drink beer with people like me". Keep those pics coming.

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:10 pm
by JETTYWOLF
WHAT????????

I obviously said something wrong?

Are thrusters a no, no? Seen thrusters on boats with 1/2 that bow sheer.
Pete, it looks just like your boat, but larger.

Give me a few thrusters, and I'll park that thing between a 20 ton rock and a hard place.

AKcat,

Nope, if I'm not on mine I ain't payin the bills. But yes, I'm a at home and bored dedicated AAB'er.

I'll go away for awhile, and hit those jetties. :popcorn:

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:21 pm
by akcat
Jetty,

I figured that your experience was limited, so why do you comment on things you don't know anything about. It may be just me, but you are real abrasive when you post. "Hell, having a "walk-around" is the least of that boat's problems" now what problems does this boat have? I used to visit this site quit a bit, but don't really like reading the Doo-doo you post.

akcat

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:09 pm
by spoiled one
That is a beauty Pete! Thanks for posting those pics. Any time any of us post pics of offshore boats and our troutless adventures the trout fisher's panties get all wadded up! Seems to me that this happens about every 28 days or so... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Keep the pics coming! :thumbsup:

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:23 pm
by welder
:popcorn:

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:29 pm
by goatram
C'mon Guys Jetty is just misunderstood. He does not know how good he has it; wearing shorts and flip flops daily and fishing for his beloved Trout. He gets paid do do it too :popcorn:

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:07 pm
by Challenge
Hi Guys,

Thanks for defending my question! Some of us have kids/parents who still like to fish but need & want a cabin an also want to get up front! Actually I know alot of folks who like to have a head aboard & and would like to make their families life easier.

But I don't know how to catch trout! :popcorn: so I shouldn't be able to comment on boats.

sorry Jetty I have become tired of you blasting everyone who needs/wants a different boat than you. EVERY BOAT IS A COMPROMISE they all have positives and negatives.

This is a fun site and I'm sure that no one admits to using their bow thrusters! or having them!

Cheers :beer:

Rick

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:01 pm
by S L Dave
Being a pro...Jetty is on his alloy craft more than almost everyone here. Even our busy pal Kelper up in AK cause Jetty's weather is better in January!! :beer: :nutkick:

Sometimes the Internet doesn't get the real feeling of someones post or intent.

Back to our friends down under...
That boat kicks butt!! I love it and want to see more pics of the cockpit and cabin. It looks like a shark with that sharp entry.

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:18 am
by West Lake Willows
I love the lines on that boat. The bow is simply massive!! Would love to see more pictures of the interior. Neat to see such soft lines in a welded boat. Good welder for sure.

Scott

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:50 am
by goatram
As Telly would Say "Who Loves ya Baby?"

I enjoy the Banter and comments of Dave. He posts and lives in the Sunshine State. His fate is to get sunburned without the Fort.

I need two Dance floors on the boat. I live in the Cold WET PNW.

Problem 2 is this site's Porn. All of these Pictures of new boats make me want more. Like a Mormon I want to have multiple Wives/Boats. ( Mormon's of old or the Jack Ones ) :rotfl: Do need more pictures of the Big Sucker thou. The Name must be for the Amount of fuel consumed to go fishin

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:49 pm
by trouty
I see just one issue for me with that vessel.

First I would like to say that I like the lines a lot & it amazes me that we seem to see a lot nicer IMHO lines in down-under alloy vessels that we see coming out of US builds so far as a generalization.

With that said - the join in the sheets toward the bow would be a deal breaker for me.

IMO - that side sheet should be one piece, not joined!

I don't believe it would for example pass a commercial survey constructed in that manner.

I see it quite often in recreational built vessels obviously done to save on material costs.

I would question what support there is behind for that joint. Also issues of oil canning or flex and eventually work hardening and possibly fatigue if it is joined over a vertical frame.

Far better to avoid that in construction IMHO.

Perhaps there is a water proof crash /collision bulkhead & chain locker ahead of the join - but I know I couldn't live with a vessel constructed in that way.

Lets put it this way as a master V skipper, I wouldn't take it to sea constructed in that way.

Why do it - when it should be possible to buy the material in a continuous length even if it has to be specially milled and transported for construction.

I like everything else about the vessel that I can see form the 2 pics.

Those vertical joins are my pet hate.

In much larger vessels there's just no getting away from joining sheets - but in smaller vessels I think we should try wherever possible to avoid it wherever possible.

Cheers!

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:44 am
by wetwhopper
Uh, ha... ho hum... A little "bantering" is a healthy thing... gotta keep things from getting "stale" around here. We are all passionate about our alloy fishing machines and we all have our own ideas of what works. With that being said, boats are a compromise. I took my boat out yesterday (with the whole family, wife, 6yr. old and a 4yr. old) in some pretty snotty wind waves. I was feeling just great standing behind my "big 'ol center console and didn't even notice my wife lookn like she had just taken a shower. Was kinda wish'n I had a "fort" for her to be comfortable in. On the other hand I went out about a week ago and the sun was shining, the water was "calm" and I was loving my open boat and would not have wanted to be caught dead in a hard top. I want to design a retractable hard top and make a million dollars. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Anyway dont mind Jetty, he's a little "crusty" around the edges, but I have a strong feeling he'd give me the shirt off his back (not that I'd ever want to wear it). AAB FOREVER!!!

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:20 am
by Sabs28
You are a FUNNY one Whopper. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:36 pm
by pjay9
I'd really like to see more images for sure. I notice that the hull has no streaks on the bottom. Would that make her a bit shifty/slippery going ahead and in turns at such speed that the 300's could produce? BTW, I use the thrusters all the time on the 105' steely! It is so underpowered it only really helps to keep her on course while docking as the BACK SIDE end is such a big butt that any slight breeze pushes her sideways. Capt PJ

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:18 am
by peterbo3
trouty wrote:I see just one issue for me with that vessel.

First I would like to say that I like the lines a lot & it amazes me that we seem to see a lot nicer IMHO lines in down-under alloy vessels that we see coming out of US builds so far as a generalization.

With that said - the join in the sheets toward the bow would be a deal breaker for me.

IMO - that side sheet should be one piece, not joined!

I don't believe it would for example pass a commercial survey constructed in that manner.

I see it quite often in recreational built vessels obviously done to save on material costs.

I would question what support there is behind for that joint. Also issues of oil canning or flex and eventually work hardening and possibly fatigue if it is joined over a vertical frame.

Far better to avoid that in construction IMHO.

Perhaps there is a water proof crash /collision bulkhead & chain locker ahead of the join - but I know I couldn't live with a vessel constructed in that way.

Lets put it this way as a master V skipper, I wouldn't take it to sea constructed in that way.

Why do it - when it should be possible to buy the material in a continuous length even if it has to be specially milled and transported for construction.

I like everything else about the vessel that I can see form the 2 pics.

Those vertical joins are my pet hate.

In much larger vessels there's just no getting away from joining sheets - but in smaller vessels I think we should try wherever possible to avoid it wherever possible.

Cheers!
Trouty,
That boat was designed by a naval architect who drew up the weld plan. It is 35' long with an 11" beam. There is a problem with obtaining really LONG lengths of 5083 or 5086 1/4" alloy plate down here as you should well know. The only real 5083/86 comes out of the US or France. There is a crash bulkhead & there are a bunch of internal frames/stringers in that anchor well that are not shown. The bow is as strong as or stronger than the rest of the boat. It is not attached with superglue.
Where would you like to see the join? At the pod supporting 2X300 Zukes? Amidships?
As fer pet hates................ one of mine is anti Semetic/anti Jew/anti Israel/pro raghead zealots like you. :sarge: :sarge: :sarge: :sarge:
How many websites ya been banned from due to yer left wing ideology? BTW, are you an Australian citizen, a permanent visa holder or some other type?

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:43 am
by Sabs28
HOLY SCHNIKES :!: :!: :!: :popcorn:

Re: Big sucker

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:52 am
by welder
Right onthe edge of falling in the hole.