Here we go, the build... FINALLY Armstrong 28'

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Post by Chaps » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:34 pm

OK Howard, now yer just showin' off :mrgreen:
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Post by goatram » Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:21 am

I just noted the transom Rod Holders! Sweet. Wiring looks clean as well
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Post by Fernave » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:14 am

Hello, wondering what kind of coat is this? Is it on a undercoat/primer?

Thanks

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Post by Fernave » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:43 pm

Thank you and have fun building

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Post by Chtucker » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:25 pm

Sea trails are scheduled for April 4th.. woohooo :mrgreen:

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Post by Napa Mike » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:20 pm

That is really cool Howard.
We are all happy for you and your family. Please take more pics and give us a performance report (speed, fuel etc.) when you have the time.

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Post by Chtucker » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:46 pm

Here are the latest pictures.. We might be launching a little later just due to my work schedule.. So darn close.

My living room looks like a marine supply house exploded.. Tools, safety gear and electronics all about..
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Post by Chtucker » Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:26 pm

42 knots in initial testing..

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Post by dawgaholic » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:05 pm

That is very impressive! And with only 500 horses so the fuel expenditures will be much more tolerable. That is plenty fast enough and if the cruise is near 30 kts then you'll have great range too. Looking good! :thumbsup:
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Post by goatram » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:19 pm

Mine got the speed with just over half tanks of fuel, Four Guys, 60 gallons of water in the bait tank, and New kicker on the Swimstep. Enjoy it. Fishing this weekend out of Everett for the Stanwood Derby. Enjoy it :thumbsup:
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Post by spoiled one » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:55 pm

Chtucker wrote:42 knots in initial testing..

No "selfie" sporting the permagrin? Awesome feeling, eh?
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Post by Chtucker » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:22 pm

Unfortunately, I did not go out with them... I am a little upset, hopefully they followed break in procedures..

We are headed to Edmonds at the crack of dawn to catch the ferry out to Kingston...

We have a "few" things to put on the boat.
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Post by goatram » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:57 am

Enjoy the new Journey of Ownership and Maintenance.
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Post by Chtucker » Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:20 am

Coming home through the locks :clint:
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Post by spoiled one » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:11 pm

She looks great, Howard. I know you posted this in the past, but I cannot find it. How much fuel does she carry? Post some numbers when you get a chance. Still waiting for that permagrin pic. :beer:
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Post by Chtucker » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:08 pm

A little over 140 gallons. The tank is actually almost 155 gallons, but I have the new EPA mandated vent/charcoal canister.

Armstrong could not fit anything larger. They put it just aft of cabin under the deck. If the moved it forward it would be possible to have been larger, but there engineers felt that would upset the balance of the boat. They WILL NOT be doing another boat with my size tank. It took some (A LOT) of extra fab to get it to fit/work with the EPA stuff.

WOT 5800 RPM was 50 MPG when I got to Lake Washington with 80 gallons of fuel, 20 gallons of water and 3 guys
Got on step (without trim tabs) at 3500 RPM 1.8MPG at about 28mph
4000 RPM was 1.6MPG at 33mph

I was hoping to see 2+, but that was dreaming I guess. cruising at 3500RPM netted a bit above 16gph

I filled up in Port Angeles and had 2/3 of tank left when I got to Kirkland, over 80 miles. I was varying the rpms on the trip home and we idled for about 40 minutes waiting for the big locks in the current (PIA) We did get the wildlife show on the way home when spotted a pod of Orcas. Parts of the ride home were as smooth as glass.

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Post by Napa Mike » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:58 pm

She looks sweet! I like the red/orange accent stripe too.

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Post by BCTony » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:35 pm

Great looking boat!

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Post by Chtucker » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:13 pm

The first week has been a constant grin. Other than getting ribbed at work that I will never show up on sunny day for the next 6 months.

I haven't been "working" on it as much as I thought. I intended to add my plotter, heading sensor, GPS, and a second VHF. Instead I have been learning the systems and reading manuals.

Any issue that has come up has been answered quickly by Armstrong. I have a small punch list that I am working on with them.

1) The A/C panel is not connected to DC. No backlight on the meters or switches
2) A fire extinguisher I provided went MIA
3) Canvas bags need to be made for the bunk hardware and bunk canvas
4) Brackets need to be made/installed for the bunk rails on the cabin roof

I am pleased with the performance, especially the handling. Far better than I hoped for.

I am surprised by the comments at the docks.. I think the 250s are a perfect match. Comments at the dock are 500hp!?!?!? I guess the only regret I would have is maybe not seriously considering 600hp... Completely unneeded, but fun to say.

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Post by Napa Mike » Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:07 pm

I think 500 HP seems like a lot to folks who don't worship and study boats on the internet. :-)

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Post by BCTony » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:56 am

Chtucker wrote:
I am surprised by the comments at the docks.. I think the 250s are a perfect match. Comments at the dock are 500hp!?!?!? I guess the only regret I would have is maybe not seriously considering 600hp... Completely unneeded, but fun to say.
I had similar comments on my choice of twin Yamaha F200's on my new last year North River Seahawk Offshore 24', somewhere someone even commented 'scary'. Now that I have completed 100 hours I can confirm I am very pleased with my choice. My boat is lively in the same way as a sports coupe car. I do not feel it is over-powered at all, but, rather a perfect match. Up on plane in an instance at about 3000rpm WOT will see 50mph while holding back to around 3500rpm I am getting 30mph at around 11mpg. Stepping up to twin 250's would not be beneficial in my case in my opinion because of the extra weight. I like the fact that I do not need to run the engines hard to make good headway at reasonable economy, but, do have plenty of power and performance available if I need to get anywhere in a hurry.

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Post by salmonater » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:20 pm

Is that 11mpg, or 11 gph?

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Post by Chtucker » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:36 pm

HA HA 11mpg, I wish...

after 50 hours...

Cruise 25-26knots 1.6-to 1.8mpg and about 15-16GPH.. Once it gets on plane at 3100RPM or so the mpg doesn't change much till I hit 4000RPM and then it drops like a rock. .8-.9 MPG at 5700RPMS and 42 knots

I have seen 53mph and I have gotten as good as 1.9mpg

I have also gotten as as bad 1.5MPG on a choppy day home from Gig Harbor

I was hoping for 2.0MPG, but I am getting close with plenty of power to spare.

One change that I have not made that will hopefully imrpove accuracy is to connect the GPS to the Yamaha Command Link. Currently the Command Link is getting its speed info from a pitot sensor on the engine. Connecting it into the network should improve accuracy.

We are out for 10 days in July in the San Juans (Snug Harbor in Mitchell Bay, Victoria, Friday Harbor, Lopez, Kingston for a night and then back home) That should be a good indication of how the boat will do. We should be pretty heavily loaded with everything for the trip, crabbing on the way back (San Juans doesn't open till the 17th) and all the stufff for the kids.)

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Post by ReelSong » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:09 pm

For most of us that 2.0 MPG on a boat that size would be an incredible mile stone. Looks like pretty descent numbers all around. I'll be happy with my new build if I can muster 1.5

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