EDWING 1987?

[THEMOORINGMAN]

Was Edwing building boats in 1987?

[Chaps]

Commercial stuff, I don't know when Edwin started building pleasure & charter boats, probably mid-nineties? Did you find something interesting?

[THEMOORINGMAN]

I did and I'll survey it again this Saturday then sea trial next week.

I kind of thought it couldn't be a 1987 Edwing but someone sure painted it on the side. It's a West coast commercial gil net boat. It's 25'x9.5' with a full port to starboard house way in the stern, a huge bow and it's kind of tub looking shaped. I'll post a picture and hopefully we can solve this puzzle that's keeping me awake at night!

It had twin 140 I/O's but they were removed for a horribly designed twin outboard bracket that's got to be redone.

It has the same rounded stern, pipe cap rail, very bow top cap and the same two small swim steps in the stern as yours. I have to figure out how to post pictures to show the experts.

Thanks!

[goatram]

Welcome to AAB

[Chaps]

The boat in my sig is a LaConner (not an Edwing) but what you are describing was his bread and butter commercial gillnet rig back then. That layout you describe is common to all bowpickers out here, even plastic. You thinking of using it to work moorings?

[THEMOORINGMAN]

Yes, 100%. The design and purchase intent is pulling moorings out of the mud with a huge winch and bow roller then run 12 miles in very choppy waters at 25 knots. I'll post pictures tonight when I get in.

I'm almost at the point of no return on this purchase so I could use some input.

Did I mention there's no hull number or info on the title....

[pjay9]

What do you mean by 'Pulling moorings"? Capt PJ

[Chaps]

A buddy of mine has a big Munson cat landing craft with a mid-ship a-frame and a large moon hole in the middle of the deck so he can get right over heavy objects like mooring anchors to get a direct pull. Tough to do with a monohull but with all the weight aft like you are describing a winch pulling from the deep at the bow would likely work ok.

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If you are going to re-do the engine bracket on the Edwing I'd suggest going to a Port-Bracket like what I put on my LaConner. lets you get into very shallow water if needed (like when you want to pick up or drop off a weight on the beach for instance) as well as being able to drop the props deep if excess weight up front is bringing the stern up too high to run the boat comfortably.

Here is my old post which describes replacing my twin 140 I/O's with a single outboard. The Porta Brackets are available for multi engine set-ups as well.

http://aluminumalloyboats.com/viewtopic.php?t=1378

[THEMOORINGMAN]

A mooring is a heavy weight that sinks into the mud and anchors a boat in a harbor.

I created this link to show you pictures of this 1987 aluminum mystery boat. It's a gil net boat from the North West and it's 25' x 9.5'. Who built it? Is it fast with what power? The fish lockers need to be made level with the floor and a 42" water level tuna door needs to be cut into the side to pull mooring through.

That Munson is sick!!!

I'm researching this Port Bracket now. I'll comment when I know more but thanks for the tip! It's a bracket and a jack plate all in one.

[welderbob]

Hi Scott, Nice find! Do you have any stern pictures? Cutting out and framing the fish hatches should be pretty straight forward.
Cutting in a tuna door will be a little more work. Probably will need to get under the deck where the deck is and add some aluminum to stiffen up the side in that area . Also should add a doubler plate where the anchors come in to the boat. Do you have a plan for lifting the anchors yet?
Looks like a great project, mooring season is rapidly approaching.

Welderbob.

[THEMOORINGMAN]

Getting under the deck is easy, it's all open in three different water tight compartments. The hull is framed independently from the deck so if I drop a 500 pound mooring it won't push a floor support through the bottom.

It has a giant H frame and hydraulics that go in the tabs on the top of the rail and swings over the bow. With the tuna door cut in and the H frame mounted it could get ugly. For now priority #1 is speed and being able to winch a huge weight off the bow.

They'll be a few doublers added for sure!!! Steel mooring chain full of barnacles cuts really well !!!

I'll take stern pictures tomorrow. I'm packing my gear now.....

What kind of HP do you think it should have?

[welderbob]

You never have to much horsepower. With the weight you want to carry I'd think about a pair of 200hp? How about a single 350hp Yamaha. ? What's driving the hydraulics. ?
Welderbob

[THEMOORINGMAN]

Wow, my stomach just turned over, the mooring business can't support a Yamaha 350. The owner said when it had twin 4 cyl 140's it was a rocket ship....but I guess he should say that to sell it. I was hoping twin 150's would do the trick.

What do you assume it weighs? It's 0.025", the house is thinner.

[welder]

To post a picture ...
Type your text in the reply box.
Then scroll down a bit.
Click the Upload attachment tap .
Then click the button that says, Browse. This will take you to YOUR pictures in your computer.

Select your picture [800X600 in size works best]
It will automatically put the info. in the little box to the left of the browse button.

Then click the , Add the file button.

Then click the SUBMIT button .

Hope this helps.

[welderbob]

You said you wanted a rocket ship. Boat looks like it could handle it.I bet your trucker will have a weight by the time it gets to you.
A pair of 150hp should push the boat along nicely . A pair of 150's or a 350 hp Yamaha have the same number of cylinders. The mooring business is going to be good this year. No one is going to be able to leave there mooring @$5/gallon.



Welderbob

[THEMOORINGMAN]

Starboard side because I drive from that side so I can see the gear approaching better.

It's a local boat so I won't need a trucker. Trucking my mooring barge home from the builder was horrible, not sure I'll ever do that again.

The 150's would be v-6 engines so they would have more cylinders and I'm still a fan of the 2 strokes. I run an OX66 on my barge and love it! Same with my Tohatsu skiff engines. Those 4 strokes rot out in no time so anyone reading this don't buy an older one!!!

[THEMOORINGMAN]

Any clues on what company built it?

[Chaps]

I thought you said it had Edwing decals? It might be a LaConner, they built some of these. My boat is about the same year and had the same power as this boat and some style details are similar. Heavy pipe cap rails, same protruding keel, same windows, same formed bow, same rub rails, etc.


If its a LaConner it should have a cast medallion welded to the house, see below.

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[THEMOORINGMAN]

Now we're getting somewhere!!

"EdWing is really faded and in the stern sides. I'll take a picture of it because I'm leaving now to go right through it and make some final decisions!

When I saw your boat I saw tons of similarities! Where are your hull numbers? I can't find any numbers on this boat.

OK, I see the round LaConner emblem. The slant back stern cabin house was changed to a full square house for more room, maybe they cut it off. Anyhow, stay tune for tons of pics tonight!!!

[THEMOORINGMAN]

Does this EdWIng look like the right design and font? If so, I'm thinking he did make boats in 1987. It's 0.025" hull and sides. The paperwork says 7k pounds, could that be right?

[THEMOORINGMAN]

I just got back from my trip.

What do you think?

New issues were found. The aluminum under the carpeted bunk trailer is all pitted, some areas are more than 1/2 way through the 1/4" bottom. Those spots will need to be welded. The radar and Northstar GPS doesn't work.....

The outboard bracket is horrible. What would you guys suggest for an outboard bracket? I do think that Port Bracket is cool but I need boyancy to keep the motor/motors dry when working. The existing bracket is so short you can't tilt the motors up so they got eaten alive and now have bad lower units. Rember, cost is everything because this is a business.

Yes, those are twin 90's!! He claims it goes 20 knots but ignore the motors, they'll be for sale some day.

[JETTYWOLF]

A double or single porta-bracket looks like it would slip right into that same space..."hope it's not "curved".
If I had an ole flat transom like Chaps, I'd have one too.

The porta-bracket is big time popular in SW florida, where it's 2 feet deep everywhere, but charter boats are usually 23'-28' and with flat as a pancake bottoms, making larger high bow boats into shallow runners.

[THEMOORINGMAN]

O, it's curved all right. It's "wicked curved!!"

[Challenge]

Hey Scott,

Looks like a good project! welcome to the board, do you work in Quonnie?

Cheers

Rick

[THEMOORINGMAN]

Not really. I work all of Narragansett bay and Narragansett RI. Some of CT but never your river....but I could.....