The Journey Begins
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Re: The Journey Begins
Wow....good idea. Never seen a close up of a CW to notice.
So many ideas so little time huh?
Now, they call them Hull stiffeners, also.
What's the diff.
And why do I see some "skipped" and some not.
Would doing a long 2 of them, on my hull sides cause any kind of warp, or any kind of problem. Skipped, or continuos ??
Hmm, now I'm actually learning something.
I just fish = "no extrordinary mechanical talents"
So many ideas so little time huh?
Now, they call them Hull stiffeners, also.
What's the diff.
And why do I see some "skipped" and some not.
Would doing a long 2 of them, on my hull sides cause any kind of warp, or any kind of problem. Skipped, or continuos ??
Hmm, now I'm actually learning something.
I just fish = "no extrordinary mechanical talents"
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Re: The Journey Begins
Dave, the SKIP WELDING or intermentant welding, reduces warpage and distortion to the parent metal [Hull] and also allows for drainage . If you do a continuous weld it should be BACK STEP WELDED , like start One foot in front and weld back to the last start, this method pulls the material in tight and clean plus you don't keep making the parent metal HOTTER as you travel.
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Re: The Journey Begins
Dave the Hull stiffeners are the name that Alaska Copper and Brass calls the shapes. Usually you find the product inside in the bilge. Coldwater has used it as do others to form their rub rails. Les answered your other question. Enough Spot welds on the new rub rails will keep every thing just fine. a little wire brushing and then some polish and apply what ever you have on the rest of the boat will keep it nice for you.
No for the other reason for this post. Got a deal over on the Hull Truth Classified Adds; parts forum for $650. Chit is expensive for my bank account but needed.
Just found a Helm with SS wheel, lumitec 12" blue/white led lights for Cabin or aft deck, Bep Electrical switchs and relays for twins and house battery, Ritchie Compass, 6 rod holders A while back got a sweet binnacle for twin engines along with the key switch and wire harnesses. The fridge came from a BD brother that got it new and does not want it.
No for the other reason for this post. Got a deal over on the Hull Truth Classified Adds; parts forum for $650. Chit is expensive for my bank account but needed.
Just found a Helm with SS wheel, lumitec 12" blue/white led lights for Cabin or aft deck, Bep Electrical switchs and relays for twins and house battery, Ritchie Compass, 6 rod holders A while back got a sweet binnacle for twin engines along with the key switch and wire harnesses. The fridge came from a BD brother that got it new and does not want it.
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Re: The Journey Begins
Got some catching up to do. Last week had a few friends stop by and disrupted the whole day, Not much accomplished except drinking. The two doing the filming own plastic boats the rest own Al ones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh8LHJ0p ... r_embedded
Fuel tank for the future cabin heater (Wabasto). It is 17"L X 10" W X 9" T. Holds 3 gallons of fuel.
Pressure checked good to 3.25 psi, no leaks at welds. Sweet?
So Wednesday night my Wife and son left for Thailand for two Weeks. I stayed home to feed the animals and work on the LITTLE GIRL. I have to work also 6 days of Uncle Bills free Vacation to include the 31st and 1st. More money for the girl.
Update got the cuddy tacked up ready for welding. Still need to trim the sides down though. They will be capped with a pipe to finish of the edges so the backs of your calves don't get tore up from edge when fishing off the bow.
I also remarked the windows with Diamond Seaglaze standard's 3" radius for the corners of my windows. They will be getting cut out tomorrow. I need to get the patterns ready for them to be made. 4 to 8 weeks till they will be ready.
Last and final stab back at the BDOSHA Insp from last week.
Third time I swept up today!
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Fuel tank for the future cabin heater (Wabasto). It is 17"L X 10" W X 9" T. Holds 3 gallons of fuel.
Pressure checked good to 3.25 psi, no leaks at welds. Sweet?
So Wednesday night my Wife and son left for Thailand for two Weeks. I stayed home to feed the animals and work on the LITTLE GIRL. I have to work also 6 days of Uncle Bills free Vacation to include the 31st and 1st. More money for the girl.
Update got the cuddy tacked up ready for welding. Still need to trim the sides down though. They will be capped with a pipe to finish of the edges so the backs of your calves don't get tore up from edge when fishing off the bow.
I also remarked the windows with Diamond Seaglaze standard's 3" radius for the corners of my windows. They will be getting cut out tomorrow. I need to get the patterns ready for them to be made. 4 to 8 weeks till they will be ready.
Last and final stab back at the BDOSHA Insp from last week.
Third time I swept up today!
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Re: The Journey Begins
She is BEAUTIFUL John And the Girls on the wall aren't bad looking either
Re: The Journey Begins
Can you get back far enuf for a overall shot. It would be fun to see the new look compared to the one you drug home! This is fun to watch and makes me want to do stuff to mine. Looking forward to seeing a great boat out on the water. PJ
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Capt. Kinda Hard still shop is not big enough to get the pictures I am getting I am up against the wall as it is. Sorry. Dave as the Same Complaint. I will load it and take pictures before I head to get the Engines and Bottom Painted some time end of March first part of April. I hope
The window for your viewing pleasure. Only 1 of 11?. The ? is do I go with double slider back doors with corrasponding wider aisle? I have one vote for the double slider and a bench on the port side. What say my audience?
Both port windows are cut now. Tomorrow the front along with the Starboard side will be done.
The Floor in the Cabin will Follow I think
The window for your viewing pleasure. Only 1 of 11?. The ? is do I go with double slider back doors with corrasponding wider aisle? I have one vote for the double slider and a bench on the port side. What say my audience?
Both port windows are cut now. Tomorrow the front along with the Starboard side will be done.
The Floor in the Cabin will Follow I think
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Re: The Journey Begins
I'm getting over SIX gallons on the heater tank. A cubic Foot holds about 7.4 gallons and your a little over 1500Cid in volume and a gallon is about 233Cid so 1500 div by 233 = 6.4 so yes it WILL hold 3 gallons of fuel.
Merry Christmas , send the check for the bigger fuel tank to me.
Merry Christmas , send the check for the bigger fuel tank to me.
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Re: The Journey Begins
John, did you get window quotes from anyone else? Try Motion Windows down in Vancouver, WA if you haven't.
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Les I took the Dimentions from Moeller
Product Dimension: 16.75" L x 10.75" W x 8.00" H. And Besides measuring and Cutting I don't Like Math Sister Gertrude and Sister Florence Tried to beat it in me but Failed Miserably. Sister Easter tried to do the same on English. I hated school with a passion. It all started in First Grade with Sister Anna. Nuns are Evil to kids. That is my Story and I am Sticking to it. I can only remember the Mean Ones. All "Sisters of Mercy" Not!
Bob I talked to them at the work boat show. I am gonna get quotes from them, DSG and AJR. The Dual Slider DSG (Diamond Seaglaze) I will get a Builder's Price.
Cleaned the Shop again and welded the inner window supports in on the Port side
Product Dimension: 16.75" L x 10.75" W x 8.00" H. And Besides measuring and Cutting I don't Like Math Sister Gertrude and Sister Florence Tried to beat it in me but Failed Miserably. Sister Easter tried to do the same on English. I hated school with a passion. It all started in First Grade with Sister Anna. Nuns are Evil to kids. That is my Story and I am Sticking to it. I can only remember the Mean Ones. All "Sisters of Mercy" Not!
Bob I talked to them at the work boat show. I am gonna get quotes from them, DSG and AJR. The Dual Slider DSG (Diamond Seaglaze) I will get a Builder's Price.
Cleaned the Shop again and welded the inner window supports in on the Port side
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I hear ya on the Nuns, went to Precious Blood and our principal was Sister Mary Alice Rose . Glad I only did that for 3 years.
It's hard to believe that there are 7.48 gallons in a cubic foot isn't there?
It's hard to believe that there are 7.48 gallons in a cubic foot isn't there?
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Re: The Journey Begins
Are you all bored to death yet waiting on me? Got two more windows cutout. I did run down to Harbor Marine to pick up a windshield wiper (AFI 1.5 HD waterproof with the cover and a pantagraph wiper arm) to check to make sure I left enough room for it.
In the cutout you can see the Metabo cordless drill and Jig Saw. I had to come and get something to eat so I updated for you all.
In the cutout you can see the Metabo cordless drill and Jig Saw. I had to come and get something to eat so I updated for you all.
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How hard is to cut out the front windows, do you have to cut from both sides because they lean forward?
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Re: The Journey Begins
She is coming along nicely, John. That will be one fine fish killing machine.
My 8 year old son really likes the posters on the wall.
My 8 year old son really likes the posters on the wall.
Spending my kids inheritance with them, one adventure at a time.
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Another update
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John, where/how are you running power to your over head, are you using a channel iron chase or tubing?
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2.5" half pipe in both corners of the windows will be the chases. Pieces are cut but needed the windows out and the metal straightened before I could install them. One of my projects for the day today. I will also be prepping to get the floor ready for the Cabin. Fuel sending wires need to be installed in braided wire loom and then routed and supported. I installed 1 additional hose clamp to the vent lines. I found out they along with actual fuel lines need to be double clamped. The fuel lines where just not the vent lines.welder wrote:John, where/how are you running power to your over head, are you using a channel iron chase or tubing?
Breakfast of Corn Flakes and back at it.
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Are you going to install a 12" or 16" wide backing plate overhead at the windshield for mounting Radios and what not so you don't have to hunt for a cross member to screw too?
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I was planning on a shelf for the radios. Wood? its an Idea.
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My first pattern. I did not like it though Ken did. with just the cardboard I noticed that I would be wacking my head trying to look fwd around the house.
My second idea was the one I went with. Less chanse of interferance and it follows the LINES
Grab rails installed. Made from 6063 alloy, bent in my HF Pipe Bender. Dave and I used the pattern from the wings mentioned to do most of the matching and marking on the bench. We bent them from 1" Schedule 40 pipe. Then set the rip fence to rip it. A little trimming and sanding they fit up pretty nice. The Standoffs are 1.75" and I used the joint jigger to cut the fish mouths.For the time being they are Tacked not welded in. Meet your approval?
Dave came up with his Lap Top and continued to input measurement of my boat. We even designed the Bow Pulpit. Will be made out of Diamond Plate.
Next thing to get done is the Cabin Floor and Cuddy bed area.
It's starting to look like a boat
My second idea was the one I went with. Less chanse of interferance and it follows the LINES
Grab rails installed. Made from 6063 alloy, bent in my HF Pipe Bender. Dave and I used the pattern from the wings mentioned to do most of the matching and marking on the bench. We bent them from 1" Schedule 40 pipe. Then set the rip fence to rip it. A little trimming and sanding they fit up pretty nice. The Standoffs are 1.75" and I used the joint jigger to cut the fish mouths.For the time being they are Tacked not welded in. Meet your approval?
Dave came up with his Lap Top and continued to input measurement of my boat. We even designed the Bow Pulpit. Will be made out of Diamond Plate.
Next thing to get done is the Cabin Floor and Cuddy bed area.
It's starting to look like a boat
John Risser aka goatram
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Re: The Journey Begins
I like the grab rail system. The progress is amazing! You should just take some pics of a general overall to give an idea of the where it is now...as there is so much done. PJ
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I like it, John. She is progressing nicely.
Spending my kids inheritance with them, one adventure at a time.
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Problem Capt is it's stuck in the shop floating on 2 X 6 and blocks. Just finishing up the 9.5 hrs of double time work for the Holiday. Boeing shuts down for the Christmas and New Year Holidays but the LCF continues to fly. Got 26 hours for my troubles for next paycheck and it will be taxed heavy cause of the Cliff we will hit at midnight.
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Been waiting a while for my update fix............ So hows it going??????????
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Goat gave up on it. Last we saw of him he was heading back east in his powerstroke to get that 40' CC for sale back in Rhode Island.
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