Why I love my alloy boat...
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Why I love my alloy boat...
I was standing at the boat yard today watching the fabricator weld 10 new rod holders and hang the brackets for my outriggers when a friend says, "you're almost out of space to put anything new!"
my response: "nah... That's why it's aluminum... You can always just weld more stuff on."
As Stan Lee used to say, " 'nuff said!"
- Case
my response: "nah... That's why it's aluminum... You can always just weld more stuff on."
As Stan Lee used to say, " 'nuff said!"
- Case
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This thread is useless with out pictures.
MORE rod holders , way cool.
MORE rod holders , way cool.
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I'll comment on that subject......
Micheal Richards (aka: Kramer) gets "dissed"(to use a 'hood term) by the loud and socially burdened part of our society in a Night Club while doing stand-up, and while he hands them a new azz verbally, someone in the audience films it all on their cell phone. And them it hits all the Hollywood gossip TV shows. A Master of comedy goes down quick. Probably "BLACK" listed. Which was irronic.
Micheal Richards (aka: Kramer) gets "dissed"(to use a 'hood term) by the loud and socially burdened part of our society in a Night Club while doing stand-up, and while he hands them a new azz verbally, someone in the audience films it all on their cell phone. And them it hits all the Hollywood gossip TV shows. A Master of comedy goes down quick. Probably "BLACK" listed. Which was irronic.
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Jetty-
Are you posting drunk again? ;-)
Les-
That's the problem with posting new threads from one's iPhone while at their youth's soccer practice. No ability to attach pics. I'll snap a bunch in the AM when the outriggers are fitted and I can show the CanCan in her full, fish-killing glory.
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Are you posting drunk again? ;-)
Les-
That's the problem with posting new threads from one's iPhone while at their youth's soccer practice. No ability to attach pics. I'll snap a bunch in the AM when the outriggers are fitted and I can show the CanCan in her full, fish-killing glory.
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I knew I could count on ya Can Can .
Jetty don't drink , he is on a Natural High .
Jetty don't drink , he is on a Natural High .
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Watching this guy work his little portable wire machine actually makes me wonder just how tough alloy welding is and if it's something I ought to be doing myself...
Any comments on length and steepness of the learning curve? How about initial investment?
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Any comments on length and steepness of the learning curve? How about initial investment?
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Re: Why I love my alloy boat...
About $2K for toys [ used ] and a few years to get it down pat.
Welding is ART , some people pick it right up and some , well, need to look for something else to do.
Just remember about welding [ and this is a RULE of THUMB ] if it looks GOOD it is GOOD . To make a proper it has to be done right annnnnd when it's done right , it looks Goooooood.
Welding is ART , some people pick it right up and some , well, need to look for something else to do.
Just remember about welding [ and this is a RULE of THUMB ] if it looks GOOD it is GOOD . To make a proper it has to be done right annnnnd when it's done right , it looks Goooooood.
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Re: Why I love my alloy boat...
I started out tig welding steal and SS, I picked that up rather quick.
Tig welding aluminum was a bit more difficult probably a month of practice before I made consistent nice welds.
Mig welding aluminum was maybe a day or two, as Welder said it is an art.
Mig came very easy to me, But about 8 or 9 years ago, I had the opportunity to go into the welding of anodized aluminum for T-top's and tower's business. Now for me the anodized was a real pain to learn it was almost 6 months of fitting and tacking before I made nice welds. And another 4 or 5 months before I had the confidence to work on the high end boats(at that time I had a partner that was very good at welding anodized)
I have taught some how to weld at different jobs I have worked.
Some pick it up very fast, and others just have to find another job.(could very well be the teacher)
and some can be thick headed like myself just fight it tell you get it right.
What ever you do, one thing I have noticed is learn the kind of welding you need to do first(i.e. mig, tig.smaw,)
for the most part people that I have been around get real good at one kind of welding, very few are real good at all forms of welding, me included I haven't touched a stick welder in years would probably take me a little while to make a nice weld.
As far as the learning curve goes each person seems to be different, good luck.
Tig welding aluminum was a bit more difficult probably a month of practice before I made consistent nice welds.
Mig welding aluminum was maybe a day or two, as Welder said it is an art.
Mig came very easy to me, But about 8 or 9 years ago, I had the opportunity to go into the welding of anodized aluminum for T-top's and tower's business. Now for me the anodized was a real pain to learn it was almost 6 months of fitting and tacking before I made nice welds. And another 4 or 5 months before I had the confidence to work on the high end boats(at that time I had a partner that was very good at welding anodized)
I have taught some how to weld at different jobs I have worked.
Some pick it up very fast, and others just have to find another job.(could very well be the teacher)
and some can be thick headed like myself just fight it tell you get it right.
What ever you do, one thing I have noticed is learn the kind of welding you need to do first(i.e. mig, tig.smaw,)
for the most part people that I have been around get real good at one kind of welding, very few are real good at all forms of welding, me included I haven't touched a stick welder in years would probably take me a little while to make a nice weld.
As far as the learning curve goes each person seems to be different, good luck.
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Re: Why I love my alloy boat...
Next we'll work on Gandrfabs, "spelling".......
I love my alloy boat because no one has one near me, except the Coasties. When they stop me or point their machine guns at me, I yell....."hey alloy brotha's!!!!"
And they give me the clueless look, back. Just like the rest of the world in these parts.
I love my alloy boat because no one has one near me, except the Coasties. When they stop me or point their machine guns at me, I yell....."hey alloy brotha's!!!!"
And they give me the clueless look, back. Just like the rest of the world in these parts.
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Not going to happenJETTYWOLF wrote:Next we'll work on Gandrfabs, "spelling".......
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Don't you mean, "note gowin too hapn"?gandrfab wrote: Not going to happen
Huked on foniks werkd fur mee!
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Eye halve a spelling checkerCanCanCase wrote:Don't you mean, "note gowin too hapn"?gandrfab wrote: Not going to happen
Huked on foniks werkd fur mee!
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Alloy porn AND poetry... Gawd I love this board!
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Re: Why I love my alloy boat...
Okay, as promised, here's the first of the rod holder pics... the 4 blocky looking things on the rail are rod holders with a custom base made to fit on my Cannon downrigger bases. The others are "adjustable angle" weld-on rod holders... THEN we decided there weren't enough rocket launchers up top to hold all of these rods we're going to carry, so that was added last minute last week. Brings the total rod-carrying capacity to 12 on the cockpit rails and 16 up top for a total of 28 rods ready to kill fish...
Let's see if I can get the photos to upload now...
-Case
PS: not to be a tease, but the outriggers are now "rigged" so I'll get some pics of them in the next few days too... they just expanded from 10' to a telescoping 15' version today... gotta get the extensions mounted and pinned tomorrow.
Nope... images too big. I'll resize everything later.
Let's see if I can get the photos to upload now...
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PS: not to be a tease, but the outriggers are now "rigged" so I'll get some pics of them in the next few days too... they just expanded from 10' to a telescoping 15' version today... gotta get the extensions mounted and pinned tomorrow.
Nope... images too big. I'll resize everything later.
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Let's see if my Photoshop batch resizing skills are still intact!
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Yup! There they are...
Now for some shots of the outriggers, hydraulic windlass and pot puller...
so like the opening post said, room for more stuff? Sure! Just weld it on!
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Yup! There they are...
Now for some shots of the outriggers, hydraulic windlass and pot puller...
so like the opening post said, room for more stuff? Sure! Just weld it on!
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Jetty,
You hurt my feelings saying no one near you has an alloy boat.
Cptom
You hurt my feelings saying no one near you has an alloy boat.
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TOM,
yeah, and no one near you has one either.....
-what I meant is all the Saturday's I sit at the most busy boat ramp in three counties waiting on my late customers, while taking up valuble dock space. 300 boats can pass me by and not a one of the owners of these boats
actually 'GETS IT". Even though there's two big giant Pilot boats made of alloy not just 100 yards from me at the dock, and I still get the....."thats the biggest stainless steel boat I've ever seen!!"
Many, of these curvey cad-cammed seafoam green boats are larger than me, and have half the deck space. They look at me like I'm the goofy one!!
But then again I've never been a crowd follower.
Remember I also fish for Redbass with machined aluminum twin drag Accurates that are "heirlooms" also.....not little Penn eggbeaters.
yeah, and no one near you has one either.....
-what I meant is all the Saturday's I sit at the most busy boat ramp in three counties waiting on my late customers, while taking up valuble dock space. 300 boats can pass me by and not a one of the owners of these boats
actually 'GETS IT". Even though there's two big giant Pilot boats made of alloy not just 100 yards from me at the dock, and I still get the....."thats the biggest stainless steel boat I've ever seen!!"
Many, of these curvey cad-cammed seafoam green boats are larger than me, and have half the deck space. They look at me like I'm the goofy one!!
But then again I've never been a crowd follower.
Remember I also fish for Redbass with machined aluminum twin drag Accurates that are "heirlooms" also.....not little Penn eggbeaters.
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Jetty,
Since I don't use the ramps very much, I am spared many of the questions you get daily. A lot of the boats you're describing do slow down and come over to the dock to check mine out. Probably the funniest statement was from a local "bubba" who said in all seriousness "that is the the biggest gd jon boat I have ever seen".
Changing subjects, the poem gandrfab wrote ridiculing spell-check is great, I may have to send that to a couple of my "grammer/spelling cop" friends and see if it will shut them up.
Tom
Since I don't use the ramps very much, I am spared many of the questions you get daily. A lot of the boats you're describing do slow down and come over to the dock to check mine out. Probably the funniest statement was from a local "bubba" who said in all seriousness "that is the the biggest gd jon boat I have ever seen".
Changing subjects, the poem gandrfab wrote ridiculing spell-check is great, I may have to send that to a couple of my "grammer/spelling cop" friends and see if it will shut them up.
Tom
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Sorry, cptom
I copy and pasted it, that poem has been going around for awhile.
I copy and pasted it, that poem has been going around for awhile.
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Tom,
I do get from time to time, people saying that they've seen a boat like mine hanging off a dock up the ICW.
I tell them, "yepper.....dats Tom. He be smurt too."
I do get from time to time, people saying that they've seen a boat like mine hanging off a dock up the ICW.
I tell them, "yepper.....dats Tom. He be smurt too."
Re: Why I love my alloy boat...
What do the new outriggers look like Case, You got my interest up. Later, Gerberman
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You mean I gotta post photos before you get to come see in person? ;-) I'm still getting over the adrenaline from running this bar for the first time watching breakers higher than my cabin less than 20' on either side of me.Gerberman wrote:What do the new outriggers look like Case, You got my interest up. Later, Gerberman
I suppose after a weekend relaxing with family I could be persuaded to get a few pics taken and up here. I'm sure " Team AluminumAlloyBoats.com" would appreciate it! ;-)
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Case,
Man, that is a lot of rod holders. I only get to use one pole per person, and I don't have near that many friends. So have you caught a tuna yet? I just saw a show on SE Alaska on whatever they show is with the Go Fisch (Outdoors Adventures?). They were at Pelican and Elfin Cove, and hit the Kings at Deer Harbor -- I was SO CLOSE.. Wish I would have tried there on my way up. Oh well, I have a year on the boat now, maybe in a year or so I will move up to a 35 so I can do the run up SE Alaska again...
Jim
Man, that is a lot of rod holders. I only get to use one pole per person, and I don't have near that many friends. So have you caught a tuna yet? I just saw a show on SE Alaska on whatever they show is with the Go Fisch (Outdoors Adventures?). They were at Pelican and Elfin Cove, and hit the Kings at Deer Harbor -- I was SO CLOSE.. Wish I would have tried there on my way up. Oh well, I have a year on the boat now, maybe in a year or so I will move up to a 35 so I can do the run up SE Alaska again...
Jim
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Hi Jim!
All the charters and lodges in Elfin fish Deer Harbor. I've been down there a few times and if you know the tides it can be lights out king fishing. I've hit 4 guests with a 2 fish per person limit in under an hour before.
Tuna is about done here. Weather is setting in and I'm rigging crab pots and planning for next summer.
Ha... Not only can you only fish one rod per man, but no more than 6 lines can be in the water at any time too. In OR, as long as I'm offshore fishing for tuna, I can use as many lines as I can manage. Right now that's 12 trolling rods, 2 hand lines and a half dozen spinning rigs standing by to cast at jumpers when we get close.
You should bring your boat down here next summer so to fish the tournament series!
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All the charters and lodges in Elfin fish Deer Harbor. I've been down there a few times and if you know the tides it can be lights out king fishing. I've hit 4 guests with a 2 fish per person limit in under an hour before.
Tuna is about done here. Weather is setting in and I'm rigging crab pots and planning for next summer.
Ha... Not only can you only fish one rod per man, but no more than 6 lines can be in the water at any time too. In OR, as long as I'm offshore fishing for tuna, I can use as many lines as I can manage. Right now that's 12 trolling rods, 2 hand lines and a half dozen spinning rigs standing by to cast at jumpers when we get close.
You should bring your boat down here next summer so to fish the tournament series!
- Case
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